Examining the success of mid-late round QB’s drafted between 2010-2015

Many people advocate the Steelers drafting a mid-round quarterback. Intentions vary: some merely want a back-up while some hope Ben Roethlisberger‘s heir can be found.

Most conversations about quarterbacks drafted after the first two rounds usually end involving names like Russel Wilson and Dak Prescott, players taken in the third and fourth round of the draft.

However, these players are the exception, not the rule.

In order to really see how successful quarterbacks taken after the first two rounds have been, I compiled a table following each quarterback drafted between rounds three and seven from 2010-2015.

I excluded 2016 because it seems too early to determine how successful those quarterbacks taken last year are or will be.

Quarterbacks drafted in rounds 3-7 between 2010-2015

Name Round Pick Year drafted Drafted by Current team # of NFL teams Starts Career record Career passer rating
Colt McCoy 3 85 2010 Cle Wash 3 25 7-18 78.9
Mike Kafka 4 122 2010 Phi n/a 7 0 0 47.7
John Skelton 5 155 2010 Ari n/a 5 17 8-9 63
Jonathan Crompton 5 168 2010 SD/LA n/a 4 0 0 0
Rusty Smith 6 176 2010 Ten n/a 2 1 0-1 29.3
Dan LeFevour 6 181 2010 Chi n/a 5 0 0 0
Joe Webb 6 199 2010 Min Car 2 2 1-1 66
Tony Pike 6 204 2010 Cin n/a 1 0 0 60.1
Levi Brown 7 209 2010 Buf n/a 1 0 0 51.4
Sean Canfield 7 239 2010 NO n/a 1 0 0 0
Zac Robinson 7 250 2010 NE n/a 4 0 0 0
Ryan Mallett 3 74 2011 NE Bal 3 8 3-5 64.9
Ricky Stanzi 5 135 2011 KC n/a 5 0 0 0
T.J. Yates 5 152 2011 Hou n/a 3 7 4-3 72.8
Nathan Enderle 5 160 2011 Chi n/a 4 0 0 0
Tyrod Taylor 6 180 2011 Bal Buf 2 29 14-14 92.3
Greg McElroy 7 208 2011 NYJ n/a 2 1 0-1 79.2
Russell Wilson 3 75 2012 Sea Sea 1 80 56-23-1 99.6
Nick Foles 3 88 2012 Phi Phi 3 36 20-16 88.1
Kirk Cousins 4 102 2012 Was Wash 1 41 19-21-1 93.6
Ryan Lindley 6 185 2012 Ari n/a 4 6 1-5 52.4
BJ Coleman 7 243 2012 GB n/a 1 0 0 0
Chandler Harnish 7 253 2012 Ind n/a 3 0 0 0
Mike Glennon 3 73 2013 TB Chi 2 18 5-13 84.6
Matt Barkley 4 98 2013 Phi SF 4 6 1-5 63.7
Ryan Nassib 4 110 2013 NYG n/a 1 0 0 152.1
Tyler Wilson 4 112 2013 Oak/LV n/a 3 0 0 0
Landry Jones 4 115 2013 Pit Pit 1 4 2-2 82.8
Brad Sorensen 7 221 2013 SD/LA n/a 3 0 0 0
Zac Dysert 7 234 2013 Den Ari 6 0 0 0
BJ Daniels 7 237 2013 SF Atl 6 0 0 0
Sean Renfree 7 249 2013 Atl TB 2 0 0 0
Logan Thomas 4 120 2014 Ari Buf 5 0 0 101.6
Tom Savage 4 135 2014 Hou Hou 1 2 1-1 74.9
Aaron Murray 5 163 2014 KC STL/LA 4 0 0 0
AJ McCarron 5 164 2014 Cin Cin 1 3 2-1 97.1
Zach Mettenberger 6 178 2014 Ten Pit 3 10 0-10 75.4
David Fales 6 183 2014 Chi n/a 2 0 0 53.7
Keith Wenning 6 194 2014 Bal NYG 3 0 0 0
Tajh Boyd 6 213 2014 NYJ n/a 2 0 0 0
Garrett Gilbert 6 214 2014 STL/LA Oak 4 0 0 0
Garrett Grayson 3 75 2015 NO NO 1 0 0 0
Sean Mannion 3 89 2015 STL/LA STL/LA 1 0 0 43.8
Bryce Petty 4 103 2015 NYJ NYJ 1 4 1-3 60
Brett Hundley 5 147 2015 GB GB 1 0 0 0
Trevor Siemian 7 250 2015 Den Den 1 14 8-6 84.6

Let’s start by breaking this table down by year.

2010

This may be the worst year of this selection. The most successful player of this group is Colt McCoy, who has been on three different NFL teams and is currently the backup in Washington behind Kirk Cousins.

The next successful player is John Skelton, who on paper doesn’t seem terrible. His record in games started is 8-9. However, after spending time with five different NFL teams he hasn’t been on an active NFL roster since 2013. He couldn’t even make it in the CFL; he was signed by the Montreal Alouettes in February of 2015 but was released that May.

The only other player from this draft class on an active roster is Joe Webb, who hasn’t thrown a pass in a game since 2011 (with the Minnesota Vikings). With his current team, the Carolina Panthers, Webb is listed as a quarterback but his only impact has been on special teams.

2011 

2011 isn’t much better than the prior-year but it is salvaged by having one mid-round quarterback currently starting for an NFL team: Tyrod Taylor. Taylor was drafted by the Baltimore Ravens but eventually went on to start for the Buffalo Bills and has been moderately successful.

The highest draft pick of the group, Ryan Mallett, has certainly been a disappointment. After being shipped to Houston, he failed to win a starting job and eventually landed with the Ravens, where he has been serving as a backup.

TJ Yates is the only other player in this group to record a win in games started. His career hasn’t been too bad. He has a surprising win/loss record of 4-3 and seems destined to be a career backup, that is if he can find a new team.

2012

2012 easily has the best group of quarterbacks among the selected years. This collection is headlined by Russell Wilson, who has had a wildly successful career with the Seahawks after being drafted in the third round. Wilson gives many hope that a franchise quarterback can be found later in the draft, but he is a perfect example of a player being the exception, not the rule.

Despite having the third-most career wins among players, Kirk Cousins is easily the second-best player from this draft class. He’s had a rocky career with the Redskins, but he’s improved over the years and appears to be locked in as a starting quarterback in the league.

Nick Foles has had an odd career. He started in Philadelphia and showed some promise, but was later shipped to the Rams where he wasn’t nearly as successful. Foles was with Kansas City briefly last season, then returned home to Philadelphia where he will be backup behind Carson Wentz. Foles may get another chance to start someday, but he may be destined to be a career backup.

2013

After a promising quarterback class in 2012, the following year appears to be a reality check. There are no current starters among these quarterbacks. The most promising players appear to be Mike Glennon and Landry Jones.

Glennon had a chance to start early in his career but was modestly successful. He may get a chance to start for the Bears depending on how they handle the NFL draft, but for now, he technically is the starter. It’s clear the Bear value Glennon, given the large contract they gave him this offseason.

Jones is a more intriguing case. He’s showed equal flashes of brilliance and terribleness throughout his career in Pittsburgh and has failed to prove he can be a consistent option. While Glennon has the chance to start, Jones accepted two more years of being a backup, signing a very team-friendly deal with the Steelers.

2014

Yet another group where no starting quarterback has emerged. Oddly enough the highest drafted player in this class doesn’t even play quarterback anymore: Logan Thomas transitioned to a tight end with the Bills.

The rest of the group is littered with backups. The most promising player currently appears to be AJ McCarron, who has proved to be a competent backup for the Bengals. He even has a winning record when starting.

Tom Savage and Zach Mettenberger are the remaining players who have had starting opportunities, but neither has shown they can be a consistent passer in the NFL. Mettenberger has disappointed, failing to win a single game despite 10 career starts. Savage was benched for Brock Osweiler last season, which speaks volumes.

2015

The most recent group and again a disappointing one. Shockingly the most successful player has been Trevor Siemian, a seventh-round pick who had an 8-6 record when starting for the Broncos in 2016. It’s still to be determined how successful his career will be. He’s off to a promising start, but Denver used a first round draft pick on Paxton Lynch last year as an insurance policy if that promise starts to wear off.

The highest drafted player of the group, Garrett Grayson, has arguably been the worst of the group. Grayson is still on the Saints roster, but he was cut in September of 2016 and went unclaimed. Yes, a third-round quarterback went untouched in this QB-hungry league.

He returned to New Orleans in January, signing a futures contract with the Saints.

The rest of the players are still unproven. Brett Hundley hasn’t had many opportunities with the Packers because he sits behind Aaron Rogers. Bryce Petty received playing time in 2016 with a terrible Jets team. It may be too early to declare Sean Mannion’s future, but the Rams drafted Jared Goff with the first overall pick in the 2016 draft for a reason. While Goff sat through the early portions of last season, the Rams chose to start Case Keenum over Mannion. That too could be telling of Mannion’s ability.

By the numbers

As you can see, mid-late round quarterbacks have had wildly inconsistent success. Here’s a breakdown by the numbers:

  • 46 quarterbacks have been drafted in rounds 3-7 between 2010 and 2015.
  • 5 of these quarterbacks are currently starting on an NFL team, equaling an 11% starting rate.
  • 30 of these players have been on multiple NFL rosters.
  • 18 of these players aren’t currently on an NFL roster. Also worth noting is many of these quarterbacks are on a roster because they recently signed a futures contract. This translates to roughly 60% of the quarterbacks maintaining an NFL career.
  • 7 of these players have career win/loss records of .500 or better in games started.
  • 2 quarterbacks drafted in the 3rd round are currently starting for an NFL team: Russell Wilson & Mike Glennon
  • 1 quarterback drafted in the 4th round is currently starting for an NFL team: Kirk Cousins.
  • 1 quarterback drafted in the 6th round is currently starting for an NFL team: Tyrod Taylor. (Note: Tom Brady was not a part of this case study since he was drafted before 2010.)
  • 1 quarterback drafted in the 7th round is currently starting for an NFL team: Trevor Siemian.

Conclusion

The data shows that while it is possible to find a starting quarterback in the later rounds of the draft, it is extremely difficult. The narrative that mid-round starters can be found was complicated by the emergence of Dak Prescott this season, making everyone believe a “Dak Prescott” can be found in every draft class.

This isn’t the case.

Teams have repeatedly failed to develop mid-round quarterbacks and it’s a trend that will continue. While every couple of years a diamond in the rough can be found, these players are always the exception, not the rule.

For those thinking a late-round quarterback can be developed and groomed into an eventual starter, take a look at the data. Most late round quarterbacks are names you’ve never heard of. The quarterback position is the most coveted in the NFL. If teams think a player can be a legitimate contributor, they take him earlier. Sixth and seventh round flyers almost never work out.

To wrap this up, the point of this exercise is to provide context for the idea of the Steelers drafting a mid-to-late round quarterback. The majority of quarterbacks drafted beyond the first two rounds tend to bounce around NFL rosters and never turn into legitimate starters.

Third-round draft picks fail more often than they succeed. This makes drafting a mid-to-late quarterback not worth the resources or the potential in getting contributors at other positions.


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